if you listen closely to what boehner said, he also left the door open a libble. can we get this done in the lame-duck session? no. can they do a little bit and kick the can down the field until next year where they can get the broader tax reform and spending controls in a way that gives confidence to these c.e.o.'s in this room? yeah, they can do that. so the question is, will they do that? >> will they do that? if you can give one -- senator sasser, if you can get the president on the phone for two minutes and give him one piece of advice what he has to do to get this deal done, what would it be? >> boy, i don't know. that's a tough question. i think i would tell him that he needs to spend more time with leadership on both sides of the congress. and he needs to open up the white house and invite more of the members of both houses in. a little more smoozing, if you will, a little more getting to know each other. that's not his nature. he's really a little introverted, to be quite frank about it. but he needs to reach out and become a more of a political animal an